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Is anyone elase doing the old syllabus level 3 and panicing? Im still struggling with the mock test for level 3 manual let alone passing trhe actual test, whilst in the back of my mind every day that passes is a day less to complete Level 3 computerised which has to be completed and test finished by End of March if I have understood right. Is anyone else in this position? Please don't say its just me :(.
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Same here - my schedule to pass on the old sylabus, was sunk after a disasterious house move and I got sick. I am about to to just finish the sylabus for Manual and then theres the mock - then the revision and there is about a months wait for the test. I believe if you pass the manual you can switch over to the new sylabus for the computerised one.
A 6 month extension would be the best possible news for me on the old !!!!! HELP ICB
Regards
Trevor
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Hi All
Im also doing my manual 3 exam.Booked my exam next week .but i think im not ready for it.:( very excited.is that a computer exam or written exam.all past papers are written papers thats why im confuse.i think its a computer base in center exam.im i correct guys? can we get our pass or fail results at that time or waiting for a month ? any one know please let me know ?
All the best
Nisha
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Oh Treveor, in the nicest possible way, I am glad its not just me! I got told if the computerised exam isnt completed and passed by the end of March then in order to complete it I would have to pay again to switch to the new syllabus but go back 1 level, so as to become qualified to ACIB again and then pay to study the new level 4 which is the equivalent of this level 3, if I have understood right. That is just not an option for me. And as you say trying to get an exam booked in takes about 4 weeks which is a huge chunk of the time remaining. When I started at level 1 I was working part time but now I am working full time trying to juggle life work 2 kids, homework and study and completeing the rest of the course before the end of March seems impossible. I hope the ICB can help us because I am really struggling with Level 3 Manual, there is so many different things to remeber in this level and cant see me being ready to take the test anytime soon.
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Nisha - Yes the manual exam is on a computer in a test centre. I think you will get your pass/fail result at the end of the test but then will have to wait for actual mark. Good Luck x
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I am finding the level 3 manual sylabus a little challenging to, as you say its scope is vast and very diverse. I think to try and remember it all is very difficult (not as young as I once was!!).
Lets hope the ICB can do something for students like us. As you say going all the way back is not an option.
Regards
Trevor
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I also am really struggling with this.... I have not even got to the mock stage, I just cant seem to get past assignment 9. And when I looked at booking a exam centre they are all full!!
I think I too am panicking and trying to memorise it all as I had a years break due to family circumstances. When I came back they said I had until March to finish the course, this was in November and I was only on assignment 4 at the time.
I am now at the point as to just jack it all in as I cant afford to repay and go backwards after spending out a few thousand for the whole course in the beginning.
How can they make you go back when you have paid up front for a course?
Please Ideal Schools and ICB, help us all out here!
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Dimples - I totally understand. It would be nice if they gave anybody who has started Level 3 1 year from staring to Finish (guidlines and suppoert are for 6 monthes per couse). Everyone who enroles now will be on the new syllabus anyway. I was pre warned by my training agency of the time limit but life doesnt warn you of what it has in store for you over that period of time and until you receive the course you cannot anticipate how hard/easy it will be for you to complete. The panic of not completeing makes you forget what you are learning because its always there niggling away, so it becomes a viscious cycle of nothing sinking in. Lets hope the ICB see this ands help us. But continue for now because if they do help then you will be in a better position to move forwards. Is assignment 9 on your course to do with ratios and gearing?
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Carrie it sounds like you are with Training Link, as I am just doing Unit 9, working up to Assignment 9 !!! all ratios.
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Yes, I'm in the same situation too, finding the Level 3 manual mock really hard and feeling time pressured because of the rapidly approaching deadline. Wonder how many of us there are trying to finish old level 3?
Trying to stay focussed and to concentrate on passing the exam rather than trying to get a good mark and not think beyond that.
Good luck to everyone,
Lucia
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HI All,
From a providers point of view I completely understand where you are coming from and if you are attached to a provider lean on them as much as you need to. Level III is very comprehensive and if you can get through this you should be very proud of yourself. A couple of our own students have posted above and I would urge you to contact us directly with any study concerns you may have. The deadline has actually reinvigorated many students study and we are confident that this will translate to exam successes.
It’s been mentioned a couple of times in this thread about having to take a step back if you don’t complete in time. That is not the case. You all hold Associate Membership covering Sole Trader accounts at present. If you don’t complete before the deadline you’ll then complete two home based exams covering Partnerships & not for profit accounts, taking you to the standard of the new Associate Level. Your current AICB status will never be taken from you. This then leaves two exams covering Limited Companies at the new Level IV for Full Membership. You should not be asked to repeat previous study, but I cannot speak for all providers here as they may have alternative plans.
I hope this lessens your concerns and I wish you all the very best of luck  .
Kind regards
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Yes Trevor....Training Link. I take it you are too! How do you find their material?
Thanks Brian, I may have mis understood it slightly but it still means taking more exams and more cost. :(
Hopefully we will all get there and in 2 months time be on here sharing our good news! Fingers Crossed.
Me too Lucia. A pass is a pass. I too wonder how many of us there are struggling away.
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AS you say Carrie thats 3 home based exams and an exam at the test centre. As Brian says its an exam for, not for profit orgs and another for partnerships - home based to get the new full AICB. The new MICB level seems to be dedicated to Ltd companies (from Brians post).
A question for Brian - How does the computerised element for not for profit, partnerships and Ltd companies feature is this exam scenario (its confusing me) ?
Regards
Trevor
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HI Trevor,
In the structure that you are currently studying you'll sit a Level III Computerised exam and it will deal with either a Partnership or Not for Profit organisation. If you need to switch to the new structure the individual online exams will test your theoretical knowledge of certain computerised entries, without the need for any Sage work (hope that makes sense). You would however require to sit a full computerised exam based on a Limited Company as part of the new Level IV completion.
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Hi All,
As always, there is no need to panic :)
If you are an Associate now, you will certainly be an Associate member on the 1st April regardless of which exams you have taken / still need to take.
We are more than happy to answer any questions you may have regarding this. Our contact number is 0207 398 4440.
Kind regards,
Lily
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Thanks for that - Brian
Regards
Trevor
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Hi
Welcome to my world! I too am currently working through mocks to sit the exam in two weeks time. Don't feel ready at all. There is just a vast amount of detail included in every scenario. It's so easy to miss bits or make errors! I don't feel confident at all and am just praying to scrape through with a pass - which is gutting as I got distinctions in my L1 and L2. I'm not confident I'll even get a pass :0(
Anyway, good to hear I'm not alone. good luck everyone.
jo x
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Hi All
This whole level 3 situation is causing me immense confusion...I have been given so much conflicting information over the past months regarding how to proceed with my studies....initially I was advised that being an AICB I was in a great position to continue with the old level 3 syllabus being that I would only have to sit 2 exams (manual & computerised) but that I would have to pass both before the 31st March,if not then I would be switched automatically to the new syllabus and have to sit several exams to enable me to keep my AICB status, under huge pressure to complete level 3 before the deadline I sat the manual twice and failed ...having passed my level 1 & 2 exams with distinctions each fail left me more despondent and also financially drained (exams are not cheap as we all know).
Having failed my manual twice and realising I was running out of time I emailed the ICB to ask advice on switching to the new syallabus instead, the response left me even more confused...the reply is as follows....
"We can transfer you over to the new syllabus if you believe it is beneficial for you. We have gathered feedback from our students and designed new syllabus to be more student friendly and hopefully easier to study and prepare for. I will pass your feedback on to the Head of Qualifications, but we are transferring everyone to the new syllabus at the end of March anyhow.
You will be granted exemptions from new Level II and Level III: BA4 and BA7. At the moment there is a discussion as for exemptions from BA5 and 6, so I would advise you to wait with your next qualification until that's resolved,Unless, of course, you wish to take these two examinations, in which case please call us at 08450602345."
I'm exempt from BA4 & BA7 but no definate answer about the BA5 & BA6, their reply however gives me the choice to take them if I care to, even though I may not have to....why would I waste even more money on something that may not be necessary....another issue here is I was planning on sitting the self assessment exam...this however cannot be done unless I have already sat and passed BA5 paper which I may or may not be exempt from,how long I have to wait for their decision is unknown......my confusion and frustration continues.
Apologies for the long post but I needed to air my frustration
Anne
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Wow Anne that certainly is very confusing information to provide! Surely they should have already figured this out before the new Syllabus came into force! My next port of call was contacting the ICB with regards to posiible extensions? Techincally my course provider and tutor are already there so all the ICB have to ensure is that it is still possible to sit the exam! Why they have a march cut off date instead of a may/June (i.e normal end of school year) I dont know.
Lily, we understand we will still be associates but the fact it now seems the ICB dont know which exams we will have to take at our own extra cost is very confusing and to be quite frank probably unafforadale for those that have already paid for the Old Syllabus course. As I said in the start it is not an option for me to swap to the new course, therefore I need to get through this one and get it passed. Im sure all of the people in the same situation would be able to complete by June and it would remove the constant cycle of pressure and panic, which hinders our studies.
Hopefully ICB can provide clarity on the future of our studies and maybe some help for those of us who have already paid our fees.
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Anne, a very interesting post - If I didn't manage to attain my MICB on the old syllabus - I was going to through that towel in and do my SA followed by payroll and just settle for that. From your post it seems, I may not even be able to do that ie take the SA exam.
As Carrie very eloquently said - it's a mess and needs sorting by the ICB - ASAP !!!
Regards
Trevor
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I am on the same boat as everyone here with Old Manual Level 3, I am on my Assignment 5 now, really struggling to continue, sometimes I feel like just closing all the books and forget about the whole thing, then I am thinking I already paid 1500£ for the Career Path so I cannot really afford to give up. I am dreading to sit on the exam which I have to book realistically this month, then move onto L3 Computerised pass that exam before 31 March - seems like too far away to me:( Readign all the posts actually made me feel a bit better, at least I am not alone! So what happens if I cannot finish and pass both exams before 31st March - which looks very unlikely to me, juggling with work and 9 year old energetic girl I am lucky to find time to sit down - concentrate and study for couple of hours in a week! I am so much in panick!
In the meantime, I would really appreciate if anyone has L3 Manual mock exams available to email to me at okeefebru@gmail.com
Good Luck everyone
Best wishes
Ebru
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Hi Ebru
I've forwarded some mock papers to your email address.
Good luck - I too am juggling work, children, study etc! It's very hard.
Jo
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Hi Jo,
Many thanks, I very much appreciate it
Regards,
Ebru
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Hi All,
There really is no need to worry or panic.
You would never have had to take any extra assessments to keep your AICB status and now, in addition to this, if you wish to upgrade to Member level on the new syllabus, you will only need to take our new Level IV assessments.
Some members have, however, expressed an interest in taking the Non for Profit and Partnership papers for CPD purposes.
If you pass the Manual Level III before the end of March, great! If you do not, and wish to upgrade to Member level using our new assessments, also great! Either way there are two assessments; one home based, one centre based.
I hope this helps.
Have a lovely weekend,
Lily
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Hi All
I posted on here early in the week saying I am very stressed with the amount of time left to complete your stage 3 And was on the verge of giving up. I called my provider and I now feel a lot easier about it. I suggest you speak with your tutors as they are able to give you very good advice. I have now decided to transfer to the new syllabus as it is less stressful with no cost at all to myself Just exams.
I now feel very happy that I can carry on in my own pace.
Thank you tutors
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A question for Lily !! You said :-
You would never have had to take any extra assessments to keep your AICB status and now, in addition to this, if you wish to upgrade to Member level on the new syllabus, you will only need to take our new Level IV assessments.
Does this mean that if I were moved to the new syllabus (compulsory) on the 31st March - I would only have to take ABA8 and ABA9 to attain MICB ?
Regards
Trevor
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Dimples - From your post it looks like your training provider is going to give you free study material and you only have to pay the additional exam fees !! for whatever exams you need ? Who is your training provider ?
Regards
Trevor
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Hi Trevor,
Yes, this is correct.
I hope this reassures you.
Best of luck with your assessments.
Kind regards,
Lily
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I also have a question for Lily...You have confirmed with Trevor that when we transfer to the new syllabus the only papers we have to sit are ABA8 & ABA9.....my understanding here would be that this means we are exempt from BA5 & BA6 as well as 4 & 7 (all level 3 papers) am I correct in assuming then that the ICB have made a final decision on this?
I am hoping my assumptions are correct as this will mean I can go ahead with the self assessment paper.
I self study and therefore have no tutor to seek advice or answers from so if you can confirm all of the above it would be much appreciated.
I find this whole confusing situation so unnecessary,decisions should have been made and finalised before rolling out the new syllabus and the polite and professional thing to do would have been to inform all students & members alike of what was going to happen ahead of time instead of "suprise suprise,here's the new syllabus,haven't quite ironed out the problems yet but hey ho we'll do that along the way,let's all just get on with it "...a very unprofessional approach in my opinion.
Regards
Anne
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Lily, thank you for your response and I will talk to Training Link on Monday.
Regards
Trevor
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Wow well done to all of you that have passed. I have my exam booked in for this monday. My course provider has told me that Level 3 Computerised is approx 30hours of study. A bit of cramming and we just might get there before the march deadline. Just to pass the manual first. Eeeekkkk very nervous, a weekend full of cramming ahead.
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I have now been advised I am exempt from all level 3 papers on the new syllabus...this means I have wasted £176 trying to pass before the March deadline!!!! absolutely gutted to have wasted so much time and money unneccessarily
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Oh no Anne why is that? Are you transferring to the new syllabus after level 3? Or instead of doing level 3?
Maybe some good news for people......I have been told by my course provider that there is now an extension on level 3 computerised so it doesnt need to be completed until the end of april. Level 3 manual exam has to be booked in by the 31st march but can be sat up to 6 weeks after that. So a little breathing space has been given, so I am hoping this will be enough if I work my socks off lol!
I sat my level 3 manual exam yesterday and failed :( I sat the ICB Online test at the end of last week and passed that with destinction so I thought I was more than ready, but clearly not. More revsion required me thinks and get it booked in again. Fingers croseed 2nd time lucky :)
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Oh No! Im hoping to take a week off work maybe and cram to get it completed :/
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Carriex666x said:
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Oh no Anne why is that? Are you transferring to the new syllabus after level 3? Or instead of doing level 3?
Maybe some good news for people......I have been told by my course provider that there is now an extension on level 3 computerised so it doesnt need to be completed until the end of april. Level 3 manual exam has to be booked in by the 31st march but can be sat up to 6 weeks after that. So a little breathing space has been given, so I am hoping this will be enough if I work my socks off lol!
I sat my level 3 manual exam yesterday and failed :( I sat the ICB Online test at the end of last week and passed that with destinction so I thought I was more than ready, but clearly not. More revsion required me thinks and get it booked in again. Fingers croseed 2nd time lucky :)
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Hi Carrie
I will be switching to new syllabus instead of doing the old level 3...from what I am lead to believe it's the better option all round....wish they had told me this before I had wasted so much money trying to beat the deadline...it's been a nightmare trying to get a straight answer on this whole situation,it seems to me that the easier option for all AICB's would have been to just swap to the new syllabus in April, that's just my view though everyone has there own take on what is best for them personally.
Sorry to hear you failed :( I know how gutting it feels...good luck with the 2nd :) I'll keep my fingers crossed
Anne
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Don't panic! I misread your original post and thought you meant the manual exam! I've just started the Level 3 Comp and so far seem to be whizzing through - long may that continue!
Sorry to hear you didn't pass yesterday - I found the real thing much harder than the mock. I think I forwarded the past papers to you, if not give me a shout and I will send them on. I went over and over them just to get my speed up as I found time really tight on the mock and was worried about the real thing. Good luck next time.
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Oh I see Anne. Good Luck with the new syllabus. It does seem to have been a bit of a muddle during the changeover from the old syllabus to the new one, lets hope lesson have been learnt.
Oh phewww Wells! That gives me a little more hope. No I havent had a copy of the past papers that would be great if you could send me them. How do you do this? do you need my email address? Yeah I agree, time seemed to run out in my actual exam so speeding up would be an advantage. I am also going to re-do some of the tasks from my course as practise. I am determined not to fail again.
Im glad things seem a little easier on the computerised course for you and hope it continues that way.
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Dear Friends,##
Please see the news for extension from ICB from 31 MArch to 30 June.... on ICB Website :
Many of you are working extremely hard to complete the Level II Certificate in Manual Bookkeeping (M2) and the Level III Diploma in Manual Bookkeeping (M3) by the deadline of 31 March 2015. However, the enormous demand for these examinations has meant that, in some areas, our examination centres are struggling to cope with scheduling everyone in before the deadline.
Therefore, ICB has decided to extend the deadline for taking these examinations. The deadline of 31 March is now the deadline for BOOKING your examination. The new deadline for completing the examination is 30 JUNE 2015.
http://www.bookkeepers.org.uk/resources/news/general/icb-postpones-examination-deadline/a/6142
Good Luck, I will be sitting on my manual level 3 next week.
Ruchi
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I know what you mean by panic I'll be sitting this exam in the next couple of weeks I'm just finishing off the course work and I'm on the last one RATIOS!! Oh my do we need to remember all the ratios I don't think I can there are so many!!
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Haha I know what you mean and YES you do have to know ALL the different ratios lol! I have already sat the exam and failed and have booked in again for the 18th March. There is so much to know in this level and it so varied that it is almost impossible to remember everything. In real life of course you would have books and notes for guidance you wouldnt have to remeber off the top of your head. But hey ho we must try and cram our brains with a little more knowledge.
I have my Level 3 computerised course ready to start but I have chosen to concentrate on revising more thoughly first. I would highly reccomend the ICB Mock test for this level ( even though it costs £10), although I passed that with distinction and failed the actual exam, but it does help with the layout and question experience.
Good luck with your exam. Are you studying through a training proivider or self study?
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Hi all,
Has anyone got any past papers for the level 3 manual that they can send me please? I need to cram cram cram, b efore my exam next week.
My email is carrie.clegg@terwin.com.
Thnaks in advance :)
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Hi I'm sitting it through a Training Provider but due to changes within ICB that they really didn't go into they refunded my exam fees and now I have to book it myself! With regard to the Computerised one does this need to be done before June as well I haven't even started on that decided one at a time I'm not a miracle worker. Oh I'm really not confident on this at all and if I fail I don't think I can resit as you need to book before the end of March what happens then?
Stressed Out!
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Hi Tee_Mcp
Thats strange. I know its abit random to have to book an exam when you dont know when you will be ready to take it. All I can say is that if you are planning on sitting the exam after the end of match then allow yourself plenty of time because you will only get one shot. The computerised exam has to be sat and passed by the end of june but as far as I am aware because it is online there is no booking deadline. I am like you, I have my level 2 to start but I am concentrating on manual for the time being, I have my re sit next week. Apparently the computerised is about 30 hrs of study and there are others who have said they are sailing through it. To be honest it cant be any worse than the manual can it? June should be plenty of time hopefully. After failing my 1st attempt my only advice is practise, practise, practise as it covers so much and 2 hours isnt long. So if the all the practising only increases your speed it would be a great advantage. I know its hard but I am trying to remain positive and tell myself to get through this and then I am on the downhill slope to being level 3 qualified. When have you booked your exam for? Good luck xx
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Thats strange. I know its abit random to have to book an exam when you dont know when you will be ready to take it. All I can say is that if you are planning on sitting the exam after the end of match then allow yourself plenty of time because you will only get one shot. The computerised exam has to be sat and passed by the end of june but as far as I am aware because it is online there is no booking deadline. I am like you, I have my level 2 to start but I am concentrating on manual for the time being, I have my re sit next week. Apparently the computerised is about 30 hrs of study and there are others who have said they are sailing through it. To be honest it cant be any worse than the manual can it? June should be plenty of time hopefully. After failing my 1st attempt my only advice is practise, practise, practise as it covers so much and 2 hours isnt long. So if the all the practising only increases your speed it would be a great advantage. I know its hard but I am trying to remain positive and tell myself to get through this and then I am on the downhill slope to being level 3 qualified. When have you booked your exam for? Good luck xx
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Thanks for your positive reply I'm hoping to sit the exam at the beginning of April I feel I need all the revision time I can get. The tutor I have never mentioned to me about the deadline on the Computerised side so I'm a bit annoyed by that I feel that I was doing good timing for sitting the manual and now a spanner has been put in the works! Your right though nothing can be as bad as the Manual!!
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Wells said:
“Hi Ebru I've forwarded some mock papers to your email address. Good luck - I too am juggling work, children, study etc! It's very hard. Jo”
Hi everyone, may you please help me with some mock papers too for level 3 old syllabus. Many thanks in advance for your help. My email is mmoudlo@gmail.com
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Hi just to let you all know I actually passed my 2nd attempt with distinction!! Yay!!
Good luck to all those of you that still have it left to sit, it is possible! I thought I would never pass having failed my 1st attempt so miserably but abit more cramming and I got there in the end. If anyone needs any mock papers leave your email and I will send some through.
Good Luck xx
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Well done Carrie - still trying to book mine.
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