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Hi - can anyone help - I must be missing something somewhere!

 

Have just taken on a sole trader client.  They have provided me with copy of their accounts from last year.  I don't usually produce a full balance sheet report for my sole traders, but thought would give it a go and trial some software in the meantime :-)

 

Anyway, as part of the previous accounts, I have the following calculation for depreciation.  However, I can't work out how the charge for the year was calculated.  The notes say 20% straight line basis.  What am I missing????   Thanks.  Louise

 

Cost

April 14 - £2098

Additions - £1173

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As at Mar 15 - £3271

 

Depreciation

April 14 - £1455

Charge for year - £745

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As at Mar 15 - £2200

 

NBV

Mar 14 - £643

Mar 15 - £1071

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Hello LouP

Do you have access to a Fixed Asset Register? Maybe there is a resale value expected at the end of the asset's life expectancy and this has been taken into account. Is April 2014 the first year of trade? If so then it can't be 20% straight line.

Dean

 

Here's my guess using straight line although it isn't consistent or logical but it was an attempt to get the cost, cumulative depreciation, in year depreciation movement and NBV back to your figures, the variance being the change in cost between Yr3 and Y4 of £58:

  Cost Dep. Rate Dep (£) Cum Dep (£) NBV
Yr1 2098 25% 525 525 1574
Yr2 2098 20% 420 944 1154
Yr3 2040 25% 510 1454 586
Yr4 2040 25% 510 1964 76
Yr4 (Addition) 1173 20% 235 235 938
Yr 4 TOTAL 3213   745 2199 1014
Variance 58       58


Edited at 22 Dec 2016 04:42 PM GMT

Edited at 22 Dec 2016 04:42 PM GMT

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LouP said:

Hi - can anyone help - I must be missing something somewhere!

 

Have just taken on a sole trader client.  They have provided me with copy of their accounts from last year.  I don't usually produce a full balance sheet report for my sole traders, but thought would give it a go and trial some software in the meantime :-)

 

Anyway, as part of the previous accounts, I have the following calculation for depreciation.  However, I can't work out how the charge for the year was calculated.  The notes say 20% straight line basis.  What am I missing????   Thanks.  Louise

 

Cost

April 14 - £2098

Additions - £1173

---------------------------

As at Mar 15 - £3271

 

Depreciation

April 14 - £1455

Charge for year - £745

--------------------------

As at Mar 15 - £2200

 

NBV

Mar 14 - £643

Mar 15 - £1071


 Bit late coming to this query, but yes, you definitely need to get hold of a copy of the Fixed Asset Register. Depreciation will usually be calculated by month using the 20% Straight Line for Year (so, the monthly depreciation will be 20% / 12 Months to give 1.66666% Per Month. In the accounts you are just seeing the totals for the year, but assets in the year to MAR14 could have been purchased anytime in that year. Where an asset hasn't been owned for a full year, the actual % depreciation charge could be anywhere between 1.666% and 18.333%. The only way you'll find how much depreciation has been charged for a particular asset in the year is to see the Fixed Asset Register, without that trying to agree the depreciation figures will be just a moving feast. I don't think the issue is disposals, because it looks like there has been too much depreciation, perhaps the depreciation on a particular item could have been 'accelerated', this means that an asset is going to becoming obselete sooner than 5-years and the accountant is getting this depreciation charged quicker than it normally would.

Fixed Asset Register is what will give the answers.

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