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Just been looking at pictures from the ICB seminars in Glasgow and Edinburgh and one thing sticks out. There's a lot more wimmin than men in both pictures.
This makes me thing of three questions. 1) Are there more wimmin generally involved in bookkeeping than men. 2) How is the split (%) of men/wimmin in the ICB? 3) Do wimmin like going to these things more than men?
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what is a wimmin? xxx
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Peasie said:
“Just been looking at pictures from the ICB seminars in Glasgow and Edinburgh and one thing sticks out. There's a lot more wimmin than men in both pictures.
This makes me thing of three questions. 1) Are there more wimmin generally involved in bookkeeping than men. 2) How is the split (%) of men/wimmin in the ICB? 3) Do wimmin like going to these things more than men?”
I find this post incredibly insulting and discriminatory. What point are you trying to make exactly. I attended a superb ICB Seminar last night and it is completely irrelevant what the split was and whether women like attending "these things" more than men. To my knowledge, not a single "wimmin" was present as this is not a real word, just something made up by radical American feminists so as to exclude the word "man" from the word "woman". If you were to make such remarks in many organisations then you would be disciplined for such derogatory comments.
Kate, a woman
Edited at 05 Apr 2011 10:13 AM GMT
Edited at 05 Apr 2011 10:16 AM GMT
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Kate said:
“Peasie said:
“Just been looking at pictures from the ICB seminars in Glasgow and Edinburgh and one thing sticks out. There's a lot more wimmin than men in both pictures.
This makes me thing of three questions. 1) Are there more wimmin generally involved in bookkeeping than men. 2) How is the split (%) of men/wimmin in the ICB? 3) Do wimmin like going to these things more than men?”
I find this post incredibly insulting and discriminatory. What point are you trying to make exactly. I attended a superb ICB Seminar last night and it is completely irrelevant what the split was and whether women like attending "these things" more than men. To my knowledge, not a single "wimmin" was present as this is not a real word, just something made up by radical American feminists so as to exclude the word "man" from the word "woman". If you were to make such remarks in many organisations then you would be disciplined for such derogatory comments.
Kate, a woman
Hear Hear Kate!!
Edited at 05 Apr 2011 12:46 PM GMT
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"Quote edited as it may cause offence"
To be fair, I thought it was more an observation with very bad spelling by Peasie. I'm not sure there was a point to it other than curiosity. I'm not playing Devil's advocate or anything, it just didn't seem like it was meant to cause offence to me.
Jason, a non-woman
Edited at 05 Apr 2011 05:41 PM GMT by Stuart Wildman (MODERATOR)
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I agree with Jason, I thought this was more of an observation that maybe wasn't expressed very well (with awful spelling) by Peasie and I don't think it was intended to be discriminatory.
Lady M, obviously a woman
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Kate said:
not a single "wimmin" was present as this is not a real word, just something made up by radical American feminists so as to exclude the word "man" from the word "woman".
Well I've learned something new today. I only spelt the word that way as that's how it's pronounced in this part of the world (Ayrshire) - nothing to do with radical american feminism.
I only just returned to this forum after a gap of a couple of months when my signature seemed to cause offence.
I thought in the general chat room there might have been a less stuffy atmosphere. Apparently not.
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Hi All
Jason I removed you borat quote as not everybody may see the funny side of such a quote.
Kate I really cannot see what coments Peasie has made he has simply asked 3 questions and drawn no conclusions as to his thoughts. I agree the spelling may have inadvertantly been an issue however he has explained it.
I think perhaps Kate you could have asked the question as to why he used the spelling and why he was asking the question before drawing your own conclusions.
The problem with this form of communication is more can be read into what has been written as it is hard to guage the intentions of the poster. Every one has the right to express there opinion however sometimes we should try and clarify what the true intention was before acting.
We are all peers here and should always be courteous and respectful to each other at all times.
If anyone finds a post offence they can always e-mail James, Ami etc at the ICB or myself at stuart.wildman@wellersaccountants.co.uk and we will deal with it.
Kind regards Stuart
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Stuart
Your comments leave me completely at a loss. I have received support from another member via email, and not a woman I might add. My husband of over 25 years also found the comments very offensive - even the title indicated it was a serious issue being discussed, otherwise I wouldn't have even opened the thread. I appreciate you are a Fellow, but as a 52 year old lady with two grown daughters, I refuse to be reprimanded like a naughty child as I wasn't the one using inappropriate language (Borat - really). I have seen other people being belittled on this website for their opinions and I have always held back, but I think the comments made by Peasie and then Jason were out of order, and nothing will change my opinion on this. I have previously found this forum useful for certain information but I shan't be wasting any more of my vauable time. I feel very let down, especially after my first CPD Seminar last night where I felt so proud to be a member of this Institute.
Kate
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Kate,
I'm sorry that you found my post of a quote so deeply hurtful. It was meant in jest, as I thought I had made clear in my further comments, and by the use of smileys. Stuart removed the quote, and I have no problem with that. If other people don't see the funny side of it, I can understand that - its not too everyones taste. And please, do not leave the forum on my account. You'll hear no more from me, as I have now found out for the second time that posting on this forum is much like treading on eggshells. I will not be bothering in future.
Best of luck to everyone going forward.
Jason
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If you ask me the guy on the far left looks a bit dodgy.
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Loving your style Mikee
The black Jacket with the Blue compliments your skin tone beautifully.
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Just my pennies worth
'wimmin' is the way we 'say' it up here in Scotland and isn't derogatory or insulting at all. Peasie is just having a bit of fun.
In fact, we also say the 'wifey' down the street. Both words can be traced back to my ancestors having used in Scotland.
I actually found the questions to be quite interesting and waited with baited breath for the answer.
Wifey - Liz D
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Hi All
Just thought I would mention . I was picked up wrongly at the very early stages on this forum for using the word numpty in a Scottish sense and I had to explain myself. As in people in Scotland use it to laugh at themselves and can refer to theirselfs as been a numptie.
I can understand why Kate thought Peasie wrote Wimim, because if your not from Scotland than that is how you would read it literally. Wimim is however, how it is pronounced up in Scotland . There are a lots of words that different and do have different meanings and it took me a while to get use to.
I am from Dublin and I know we have different words and meanings as well. I have lived in the South of England, the Isle of Man as well and for example when I first lived in Guildford , everyone used to say I will see you later. In Ireland that meant I would see you later, where in Guildford it meant the next time I see you.
I really like the fact that we all have regional accents and differences and I would not want that to change. The argument could be put forward that it is the written word , but it was only in the last couple of Days that LOL has been put in the Oxford Dictionary to many peoples dismay depends which way you look at it . I originally thought years ago it meant " Lots of Love " and thought it was a bit weird when people used it.
I hope no one stops using this forum as it is still a new baby and a learning curve for everyone
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lol Sarah - I hadn't heard or seen the word numpty for ages, however I was up in Orkney visiting rellies this week and it was uttered no less than five times - hehe
I was just thinking, Peasie - maybe we should keep words like this for the Scotland part of the forum to avoid offence or write at the bottom some sort of translation dictionary for Scots to English etc.
The wifey wi the wain fae Coatbrig
(the lady with the child from coatbridge)
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