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Directors own car paid for by company

  • 67 posts
  • # 71984

Hi there
Potential can of worms here....

One of my clients (since Feb this year) and his wife and joint directors of a Ltd Company set up in November 2010. They are, frankly, very green when it comes to understanding legislation.

They are now (as of April) employees of the company. The problem I have is that they have leased a car which they use for private use and a (tiny) bit of business travel. The car is registered to them at their own address and, I believe, the kease is also in their names at their home address.  The lease payments, insurance, repairs and fuel however are all paid for by the company. I am aware (although not au fait) of the complex rules around benefits in kind etc but can't seem to find clarifcation of whether the car has to actually be owned by the company in order to be classed as a 'company car' and thus a legitimate benefit. If its not owned by the company are they still 'allowed' to pay for it in this way, and is there any other way it could be accounted for - e.g. against the directors loan account?? Or should they just not be doing it all?

I'm also aware that I probably need to file a P46 (car) by 5th July to cover the period of their recent employment, although the car was being paid for prior to April in exactly the same way, so speed is now of the essence.

I am keen to drag this company up to scratch for obvious reasons but need some help to unravel this one please!

Thanks in advance

  • 273 posts
  • # 72088

Hi Alex

Did anyone get back to you on this or did you manage to find out?

I know what my thoughts are but I would proably bounce this off the CA or HMRC first to make sure.

Let me know

Cheers

Liz

 

  • 67 posts
  • # 72091

Hi there
Yes - I spoke to Jackie on Friday who was very helpful. We ascertained that if the car is leased to them personally it all goes against the Directors loan account with any amount over and above the potential dividend payable at the year end being declared on the P11D. If its leased to the company then its P46 (car) and P11D all the way.

What I didn't ask was the VAT liability on the expenses other than the lease.... but we are currently discounting it as VATable anyway  for the avoidance of doubt and as the amounts are not large.

All a bit complificated though!
Undecided

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  • # 72095

Thanks Alex Smile

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