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Can someone explain this (Companies House info) ?

Peasie
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I've been doing a bit of investigating into a planning application in the village I used to live over 20 years ago (but still regard as home). On the planning application the land is owned by "Xxxxxxxxxx Yyyyyyyy Ltd" but this company was dissolved in January 2011 (yet the planning application was made in May 2011). The director of this company (or one of the directors) is the director of another company "Aaaaaaaaa Bbbbbbbb Ltd". It is this other company that has got me confused. This company was incorporated on 29th March 2011. Also on the 29th March 2011 there is this at companies house
TM01 29/03/2011 APPOINTMENT TERMINATED, DIRECTOR PPPPPP QQQQQQQ
(PPPPPP QQQQQQQ isn't their real name)
Can anyone explain what is going on? Is that normal for an appointment to be terminated on the day a company was incorporated?

The planning application is for nine flats built on the site of a hotel that was knocked down five or six years ago and the empty site just lying doing nothing. Something doesn't seem right about this.

EDIT : I meant to point out, the planning application was made in the name of the dissolved company after it had been dissolved. Give us a "Preview Post" button. 

Edited at 14 Jun 2011 11:23 PM GMT

EDIT 2 : What is going on with the times on this forum? The time of the post is ok but the "edited at" is an hour out. 

Edited at 14 Jun 2011 11:25 PM GMT
Acorn2oak
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Hi

I would guess that as he was a director of a dissolved company that this would have prevented him from being a director of the new company!

and yes there seems to be delay problems with the forum - at the weekend a response to one of my questions generated 3 replies all from the same person at different times.

Did anyone have any problems with the shop?

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Martin

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Acorn2oak
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Hi Peasie

Have found this on Companies House:-

Once a director has been disqualified they cannot be involved in the promotion, formation or management of a limited company for the period of their disqualification, without the permission of the court.

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Martin

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Hi

If the original company was dissolved in January 2011 it ceased to exist at that date and any assets that it held at that time technically belong to the Crown. Please note that you can apply to get a company reinstated on the register.

It is not an unusual thing for a director to resign on the date that the Company was set up. It used be very common when you could not set up Companies online and had to use agents.

If you are sure of your facts and I assume that you are against the proposal, I would suggest that you take some legal opinion on the facts.

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Adrian
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I have quite a lot of dealings with Companies House through my day job, so as I understand it:

  1. As said above, on the dissolution of a company all assets are frozen etc etc.
  2. A director is not necessary a dissqualified director just because their company has been struck off. After all, it may have been voluntarily stuck off (this will show in the list of filed documents). Even if the company is struck off because of a late Annual Return for example, this doesn't mean the director gets entered onto the list of disqualified directors.
  3. Companies House do have a search function to search for disqualified directors.
  4. As mentioned above, many formation houses will set up companies with their own director/partner as the director of the newly formed company. This is usually done because their details are already saved within the system and they can simply hit a button and get the formation process underway, and then will resign that director and appoint the 'real' one once its formed.

Vantage.
Peasie
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It likely is the company formation thing - the two known directors have good Scottish names and the resigned one the name is from a different origin.

Personally speaking I am in favour of this new development as the area has been an eyesore for the last five or six years but I do know people that will be affected by it.

The website of a third "associated" company (which continues) gives their physical address as that of the dissolved company. The registered address (for two of the three companies) changed from this real address to an accountants address in Glasgow on consecutive days in January 2010. Maybe this third company hasn't updated their website.

To me all this changing seems suspicious but for others here dealing with companies on a day to day basis will seem perfectly normal.

I would love to have some kind of subscription where I could download unlimited number of documents from Companies House to help me in my snooping.

EDIT : Or maybe I could just ask my brother if I see him today. 



Edited at 15 Jun 2011 09:25 AM GMT
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You can get copies of information from Companies House for a charge of £1 per item.

There is also a subscription service.

If you want to know more just go to the Companies House Website.

Regards

Adrian
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Peasie
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Adrian said:

“You can get copies of information from Companies House for a charge of £1 per item.

There is also a subscription service.

If you want to know more just go to the Companies House Website.

Regards

Adrian
adrian.jones@tfmcentre.co.uk”
From what I understand of the subscription service it is still £1 per document but you only have to pay monthly rather than each time you want to download something. I was wanting something unlimited. I guess that's what we've become used to - unlimited internet, unlimited phone calls and texts.
Peasie
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It's now starting to get really funny as I find other websites that offer different details - one will show which companies directors are also directors of and the SME Hub gives you a copy of their last acccounts for free.

Because of this I have found on the same day
Company "Cats and Dogs Ltd" changed its name to "Dogs and Cats Ltd"
and Company "Dogs and Cats Ltd" changed its name to "Cats and Dogs Ltd" (fictional names)

I thought I was getting confused with the companies but they have different company numbers. 

EDIT : I am still referring to the companies above but it appears as though there's about five of them now. Thank goodness I'm not their bookkeeper. 

Edited at 15 Jun 2011 12:37 PM GMT
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