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Hi All Genuine question, I would welcome comments from anyone who went last year. I enjoyed the CPD seminar earlier in the year and the regional meetings, but not sure about the forthcoming summit: Is it worth the cost of taking a whole day or 2 off? Did you really benefit last year? Thanks Andrew

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Hi 

This is a really good question.   There are a number of issues you have raised .    Here  are my thoughts about the event , please bear in mind this was the first submit and I am also coming at it from a Scottsh Practice point of view.

 I thought this event was excellent  and very worth while going to to but there were areas that  I did not feel I benefited from as much as others .  Please do not take anything as a negative as there were none really , this is just my thoughts for feedback for the ICB as well. 

 My feeling was there were two extremes . The heavy learning and absorbing the new knowkledge and  then the  general wider discussions.  My decission to go was for the heavy learning.  

James is absolutly right that there were  parts suited to been in practice more.  I believe the feed back was that some of areas were too detailed  and some members felt is was difficult.   

It is hard to please everyone, but I do feel the students are well catered for as well as new members joining.  The Fellows and more experienced  members need to have something that is new and challenging otherwise for me it would not warrant the cost. 


I hope this does not sound unfriendly but for me in justifying  the time to  go to the summit and enduring the costs.  The networking was not a big part for me.  It was lovely to meet the members from everywhere , but I really  would have liked if their had been more Scottish members there, so I could have  linked up with them when we got back to Scotland.  

  In the submit there were areas that did not cover Scottish law and while the seminar on Solictors Accounts was excellent for all members , unfortunately the laws are diffferent in Scotland so I felt a little disappointed.  Please do not take this as a reflection on the speaker as he was really good.    It was just my view , as my main point of been there is to learn and use the information for my practice.  The ICB are now working hard on this area for Scottish members and it is very much appreciated  , hence my comment bear in mind it was the first submit. 

 I had hoped the members panel would have had a wider and more experienced  range from all parts of  the UK.   I felt this because again business law is different in Scotland and there was no one on the members panel available to ask .  I stand to be corrected but that was my memory from 2009 .  I am getting older and maybe the memory not what it should be.   Again the ICB are working hard on this.

I confess to missing part of the members panel the second day at the House of  Parliament, because of the night before , over excitement and tiredness as  I had  been shotlisted for best practice which I was really chuffed about.   

That night for me was the best because as  I had the pleasure of sitting beside an extremely nice Chartered Accountant and it was real boost to be able to have a  such a great conversation at the dinner .  This gave me a real boost about learning new things and how I viewed the world of accountancy and bookkeeping.    I felt very inspired going home. 

For me I was less interested in the general discussions. I don,t mean that in a bad way .

It is just that for me  there were five outstanding speakers one of them been our own Fellow Stuart Morris , he was  a highlight for me, as his knowledge and clear understanding was extremely interesting a good to learn from. 

The Companies House Speakers .  The Pension DWP speaker and the speaker from the Institute of Payroll were all outstanding and made it justify the costs.  

I hope this review helps in making anyone decide if the summit is worth while to go to.   I look forward to meeting everyone that I have had really good discussions with on the forum. 

Here's to a great submit in November









Edited at 05 Oct 2011 10:20 PM GMT

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Hello James,
There you are, back from Eastern Europe already.
It may come as a shock to you folks living south of Watford but London is not even close to being the centre of the UK and is not that easy to access. For most of us country folk it represents a long train journey on these new fangled stand up trains that have a habit of freezing up and breaking down and one can never get answers as to why. ( Bit like having a problem with an ICB on line mock exam ). Then there are those wonderful oh so reasonably priced luxury London hotel rooms ( 1m x 1m) the envy of the Asian world to look forward to staying in overnight. Not forgetting the truely English service, always a delight and such a novelty with the English language being prohibited. 

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Tim 

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Hi Sarah

Thanks a lot for your comments, appreciate that.

If we both get there, I'm the tall one - would be good to say hello!


Hi TimM

Er...thanks.


Regards

Andrew

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Hi James 

I am only joking here , but you make it sound like Scotland is miles away.  Its 4.25hrs on the train to Euston from Glasgow.  Not much shorter flying as Heathrow is not really near London and takes another hour. 


I do know what Timms means though.   Last year I went to a party and left Glasgow at 9 in the morning as was there by 1.15

It took my friends around london a bit beyond nearly 3 quaters of the same time to get to london .   I even managed to have a pint while I was waiting for them. 

There is a massive difference  in mileage but something is wrong in London  when someone from outside of London takes so long when its not even that great a distance .  It is not a critism of London  .

I still think the event should be London , but I do understand why everyone may not think so.  

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Hi James,
My comments were somewhat tongue in cheek and I enjoyed your reply, excellent.  Most interesting is the overseas visitors you mentioned. Do you by any chance have any members in Bangkok. I run an import business there in the energy/cement industries. I got involved in book keeping to better understand Sage accounts and am now hooked. My first job some 45 years ago was a sales ledger and sales stock movement clerk. That was in the days before calculators never mind computers.  
I hope to be at the event on the Friday, provided I'm in the country.  In which case Andrew I'll look out for a tall chap from Watford.

Best regards
Tim 

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Before Computers? Before CALCULATORS???Surprised

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Ami @ ICBsaid:

“Good to hear it Sarah!  With Scotland so close to London you will definitely be able to attend the Awards Ceremony for which I am pleased to announce you have been shortlisted in the Bookkeeping Practice of the Year Award category.Laughing

Other nominations released imminently....”



Congratulations Sarah.

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I really chuffed .  

Thanks MRS S and Ami for the good news   woohooCool

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Thanks James.  Hope to see you at the conference

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