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Primary and Secondary NI Thresholds and Sage Instant Payroll

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Hi,

I'm in the process of studying for my payroll exam and I'm using Sage Instant payroll workbooks as my study aid as it comes with the free 180 day software.

I hope I'm not being really stupid here but can anyone help me with the figures that I need to enter as my NI band widths.  The HMRC website refers to a Primary and a Secondary threshold whereas Sage only refers to an 'Earnings Threshold'.  Is either the Primary or Secondary threshold, referred to by the HMRC, the Earnings threshold in Sage?

Hope someone can help as I've been looking for the answer everywhere without any luck.

Thanks

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I'm sure Sage Instants is pre-programmed with this as I used it for my payroll exam too and don't recall having to adjust it at all.  I would have thought the only time you would need to change this would be if HMRC adjusted the thresholds with the budget, and at that point Sage would issue an update if, hypothetically, you were subscribing to them.

Anyone with any different thoughts? 

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The sage workbook actually say that any software purchased after 18th May 2010 should include all the applicable settings (I only got the software about 3 weeks ago) but their settings are for the 2010/11 tax year and not 2011/12.  The 2010/11 tax year didn't seem to have the primary and secondary thresholds only an earnings threshold.

I might give Sage a call tomorrow and see what they say.

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Have a look at HMRC website  as I think the primary and secondary thresholds only came into effect 6/04/11.  As you are studying 2010/2011 tax year, I don't think you will not need this information for the exam.  As Debsie say all rates are already in Sage Instant under legislation.

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After calling Sage it has become apparent that their 180 free trial software will only be useful to someone studying for the payroll diploma if they intend to do the 2010/11 ICB exam.

If I had the real version of Sage then they would set up the software with the correct NI bands for 2011/12 but obviously I only have the trial version.

Hope this may help someone else who is intending to use Sage.

Thanks to all those that responded to my query.

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Had to drag up this thread as I've found myself in the same situation, having purchased the Sage study pack which doesn't have the primary and secondary thresholds.  Would I be allowed to complete the Payroll exam on 2010/11 tax year? as it appears that I could be setting myself up to fail the exam with only one threshold available.  Cry

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Hi,

In the end I spoke to the ICB and they said that you can do the payroll exam for 2010/11 so it solved all my problems.  I guess at some point the ICB will stop the 2010/11 exam but I don't know when that would be.

Hope this helps


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Thanks Alex, I'll give them a call and see what they say.  I hope they'll let me, otherwise I'll need to fork out again for software which would be slightly annoying.

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