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Personal Allowance and Adjusted Net Income

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I've been going through the Terrific Ts payroll mock exam [spoiler warning for anyone who hasn't done it yet] and there's something I'm not clear on.

It gives details for an employee: Quentin Russell; Date of Birth 19/08/45; Standard Personal Allowance; Weekly Wage £350.

It later says "HMRC have informed you that he is entitled to his full pensioners tax allowance".

I would assume what they mean by this is that HMRC would have provided a coding notice? It certainly calculates the correct answers by using the additional age-related personal allowance shown here: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/incometax/personal-allow.htm#1 to work out a tax code of 1050L.

At £350pw he is earning under the income limit for the extra allowance. However, if he had been earning more, the extra allowance is supposed to be reduced by £1 for every £2 over the limit. In this situation would the employer have to estimate his Adjusted Net Income, Personal Allowance, and then use an appropriate tax code? Or would HMRC estimate it (despite not knowing how much he will earn in the year) issue a tax code, and result in him under or overpaying tax which then needs to be corrected (by him or the employer or HMRC?) at the end of the year?

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As an employer, you have to operate the code HMRC give to you.  If the employee thinks this is wrong, they will need to contact the tax office.

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Fiona

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At £350pw he is earning under the income limit for the extra allowance. However, if he had been earning more, the extra allowance is supposed to be reduced by £1 for every £2 over the limit.

 

If his tax code is 1050L he will be paying tax if he's earning £350 pw on a regular basis.

 

 

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Lizzie59 said:

At £350pw he is earning under the income limit for the extra allowance. However, if he had been earning more, the extra allowance is supposed to be reduced by £1 for every £2 over the limit.

 

If his tax code is 1050L he will be paying tax if he's earning £350 pw on a regular basis.


Yes, I was referring to the income limit of £26,100 for the higher level of personal allowance for people born before 1948 shown here: http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/incometax/personal-allow.htm#1

The calculation for the personal allowance above that limit is income related, reduced by £1 for every £2 over, so I wasn't sure if it was something the employer would have to do throughout the year, or perhaps ar year end.

I was confused by the way the information was presented in the exam question. Rather than providing a tax code and an explanation that it was higher than normal because of the employee's age (as I assume HMRC would have done), they provided the information that the employee was to receive "his full pensioner's tax allowance" and expected me to know (or look up) the relevant higher level of personal allowance, and deduce his tax code from it.

I just wanted to check that this isn't how things are normally done.

And then, what is the process (who is responsible for fixing the inevitable error) at the end of the year, for employees born before 1948 earning slightly over £26,100 and so who receive a partially reduced personal allowance. Does the employer fix it with the final payment? Does HMRC correct it with a tax code for the following year? Or must the employee contact HMRC to sort it out?

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Hi Mathew,

It will be between HMRC and the employee to sort this out.  It is likely they would receive a tax return in any case, as any pension they begin to receive will also affect their income.  The employer can only use the tax codes they have been given by HMRC.

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Fiona

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Fiona~ said:

“Hi Mathew,

It will be between HMRC and the employee to sort this out.  It is likely they would receive a tax return in any case, as any pension they begin to receive will also affect their income.  The employer can only use the tax codes they have been given by HMRC.

Regards,
Fiona”

 Ok. Thanks for clearing it up for me.

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