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CIS Self employed and employee.

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  • # 101702

Hello. 

Please if someone could help me, 

I work as a CIS employee and self employed with many agencies and each of them works with a different payroll company. 

Sometimes the payslips are confusing and I do not get to understand what are the deductions for. 

As far as I know I need the Gros pay, Net pay, Tax paid to date, Expenses in order to complete the Tax Return. 

Is it any other information that I need ?

Do I have to separate employment and self employment income ?


Thank you, 


Kind regards, 


Adrian 



Edited at 27 Sep 2014 08:23 PM GMT

  • 794 posts
  • # 101703

Hi Adrian,

You will have to complete separate sections on your tax return:

one for employment or if you have more than one employer then a separate page for each employment.

The information for employment will be on the P60 year-end form you should receive from your employer(s) at the end of the tax year. If they have paid you expenses then they should also issue you with a P11D Expenses & Benefits form which will show the expenses/benefits you have received from them in the tax year.

There are separate sections for self-employment on the tax return.

Marilyn

 

  • 491 posts
  • # 101704

Hi Adrian

Like Marilyn says - any income you've earned since April, as an employee, will be shown on a P60 at the end of the tax year (or a P45 if you leave before the end of the tax year) so you should keep these payslips totally seperate from your self employed payment certificates. If you get them mixed up, and then report employed income on your self employed pages of the tax return, you could end up paying tax on that income again! This income and total tax deducted will be reported on the Employed (pink) pages of your self assessment.

When you work as a CIS sub-contractor, you will be invoicing your contractor - then when he pays your bills, he should be giving you a certificate/payslip to show how much CIS tax he has withheld from your invoice. You will need to keep all these certificates together as your proof, total them together, and 'claim' this 'CIS Suffered' on your tax return as tax already paid.

On your tax return for self employment (orange pages), you will need to report all of your income (the amount you billed your contractors for all work) and all of your expenses - i.e. materials bought, fuel costs or mileage allowances, telephone costs etc and you will pay tax on your net profit - but the amount of CIS Suffered above will be deducted from this total amount.

  • 24 posts
  • # 101711

Many thanks Marilyn and Carol, 


Sometimes I work through umbrella company, does this means that I am an employee ?


Should I make a note of each umbrealla or payroll company I have worked during the tax year and after 5 th of April should I ask them for P60 or totals or just recording this for each payment by creating an excel template with Gross Pay, Net paid, tax deducted, expenses for each employee and self employed ? 


Thank you, 


Kind regards, 


Adrian 



Edited at 28 Sep 2014 08:20 PM GMT

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