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Claiming VAT retrospectively on Quickbooks

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  • # 109785

LaughingHello  I hope someone can help......please

I have taken recently over the book-keeping of someone who uses Quickbooks.  I requested invoices from a supplier who I noted had not invoiced for the last few months and was sent 22 months worth of invoices!!  

I am new to accounting software (recently qualified with ICB) so whilst I am waiting to hear back from the business owner to see if she knows if any past invoices have been recieved and the VAT claimed, I am also wondering how I might enter this on Quickbooks in order to reclaim the associated VAT and ensure all necessary procedures are also done.  

Up until know, as far as I can see invoices have been entered in total and 'o' (outside scope) has been entered in the VAT section.  So all payments have been entered of-course but it's just that the VAT hasnt been claimed.  I guess the result of this is also that the total value of 'machine rental will show on the accounts to be more than it acutally is becuase part of the value recorded is actually VAT.

Any help with how to address this on the accounts and how to reclaim the VAT correctly on Quickbooks would be greatly appreciated. 

Thank you, Karen



Edited at 01 Aug 2015 08:56 PM GMT

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  • # 109795

Hi Karen

QuickBooks makes it easy to 'change' the VAT on an invoice and I've done this on occasions, when I've not know whether an invoice has VAT on it or not, so I've put it as O or Z, then gone back and changed it when I've received the invoice.

If the invoice is dated in a previous VAT quarter, QuickBooks will pull the change through on the VAT Exemption report in time for the next return. Again, I've done this when it's the quarter before the current one, and it doesn't cross over a year end, but this is what you have to consider.

As your invoices are for much more than one quarter before, they will also, no doubt, cross the year end, which the Accounts will have been drawn up for.

My advice would be to have a word with the clients accountant, and see what they advise you should do.

If they want you to put it all in one quarter/year, the way to do this would be to raise another supplier bill with nil value with just the VAT claimed - a description can be given on it as to why the bill has been raised. In desktop version, the VAT is claimed by using the Z code, a nil value, then altering the VAT box at the bottom by the amount you're claiming. In the Online version, it won't let you raise a nil value line, so you have to put it at 1p, then a second line for minus 1p (to cancel the above line) then this will then 'open up' the VAT box for putting in your amount to claim.

Hope that helps.

Carol

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  • # 109800

Thank you for taking the trouble to reply Carol and for your very careful explanation.

Can I just doulbe check please (being a 'bear of very little brain')?   Do you mean that (to redress the rest of this year at least) I just go into QB, then is it 'enter bills' and then continue as you described?  ......  (It's very kind of QB to make it so easy and for you to explain.)

For the previous years invoices (if they also need to be reclaimed) do you know if I can just put the amounts on box 4 of the VAT return?   I called the VAT office the other day and that's what I recall her saying - only I do like to worry and treble check everything!!!

Thank you so much again for your help. (Great business name you have by the way).



Edited at 02 Aug 2015 09:34 PM GMT

Edited at 02 Aug 2015 09:34 PM GMT

Edited at 02 Aug 2015 09:35 PM GMT

  • 491 posts
  • # 109820

Hi Karen

If the invoices are already on the system, then you can recall these invoices one by one (in the Supplier account) by double clicking on them, editing as described, then saving it again. If they're not yet on the system, then yes, use the Enter Bills system in the usual way.

You can, if you wish, just amend the box 4 figure when you submit the next VAT return, but in order to have the transaction in QuickBooks as well - so that your payment to HMRC matches that of the return for real and in QuickBooks, you will need to either do the 'Enter Bills' bit with a nil return as mentioned in the other post, or do a journal entry to explain the difference in the payment.

Hope that helps :-)

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  • # 109824

LaughingENORMOUSLY - THANK YOU SO MUCH

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